Feeding and Nutrition :: I noticed something about pyramiding recently

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Post Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:37 pm   I noticed something about pyramiding recently

Okay, when I first got my turtles, like all hatchlings they only wanted proteins. So I fed them Reptomin baby shrimp and krill (Reptomin proteins have crude protein and crude fat, too). They absolutely refused to touch anything else until they matured. Now they prefer the veggies. I did notice though, that I had my turtles on a 7 day a week protein diet for about seven months. My turtles ate protein long after they matured to not want it anymore, and they DID NOT get pyramiding. (Protein should still be given about once or twice a week to make room for the better nutrients, and avoid weight gain in older turtles).

In fact, I think they metabolize protein rather well. You think of all the ways they have to get calcium and vitamin E into their bodies correctly, but yet, no lighting is needed for protein. I don't think protein causes pyramiding at all. I don't think protein should be part of a complete diet like what I did, either. That was a big mistake on my part. Calcium is way more important.

I think pyramiding is caused by OVERFEEDING. As in, feeding multiple times a day, regardless of the kind of food they get. Turtles never should be fed anything more than once a day.

Reptomin makes awesome staple pellets, but they need to change their feeding instructions, because it says on the cans two or three times a day, which is A LOT of food.
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Post Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:26 pm   

Many mfgrs. give similar feeding instructions on their containers. Part of me thinks it's a way to increase sales. :D
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Post Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:59 am   

Doubt so, I feed mine 2-3 times a days in smaller portions, it's okays too .
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Post Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:04 pm   

twyangzii wrote:Doubt so, I feed mine 2-3 times a days in smaller portions, it's okays too .


Yeah, smaller portions work fine for multi-day feedings. It's the people who take the feeding instructions so seriously that worry me greatly.

The other thing, is, feeding over-sized portions also makes you run out of food really fast.
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Phryne - Japanese bobtail, 9 months old
Hurricane - RES, 8 yo, 6 1/2 in. long
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Sadie - RES, 20 yo, 10 in. long
Sophie - Colombian red tail boa, 5 yo, 5 ft. long
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Post Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:08 pm   

And then you'll have to go out and buy more, i.e., the mfgr has increased sales.

Small portions are one thing, many directions, which tell you to feed as much as the turtle will eat, are another.
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:06 pm   

marisa wrote:And then you'll have to go out and buy more, i.e., the mfgr has increased sales.

Small portions are one thing, many directions, which tell you to feed as much as the turtle will eat, are another.


As much as the turtle will eat is the entire can, LOL.

The food can I have says to feed them all they will eat in approximately two minutes. That's a little better, but still, my turtles are busy little buggers, and they will consume all of their normal portion within less than a minute. I don't like them eating that quickly, I'm worried it'll make them sick to their stomachs. I think what I'll have to do is start separating, and giving them one at a time and waiting like, a handle of seconds between each one that's consumed.

(That's if I can get them back from that jerk, that is.)
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Phryne - Japanese bobtail, 9 months old
Hurricane - RES, 8 yo, 6 1/2 in. long
Typhoon - RES/Map hybrid, 8 yo, 7 in. long
Sadie - RES, 20 yo, 10 in. long
Sophie - Colombian red tail boa, 5 yo, 5 ft. long
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