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Red-ish color on their Plastron

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:47 am
by nisho5
Dear All,

I have noticed a Red-ish area on their plastron. I'm so worried about what that might mean. Please check attached photos.

Details:
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It's been around 4 months Ive been taking care of these 2 adorable YBS (I believe they have some RDS in them).
Based on when i got them, they should be around 5 months old now.

I have provided them with a UVB5.0 light about 20cms away to the closest basking area.
Current Lamp
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1Pcs-lot-Reptile-Compact-Fluorescent-Vivarium-Lamp-Light-26W-5-0-UVB-UVA-UV-26W-E27/32666338369.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.KZMbpD

Also, another regular household Incandescent light bulb for heating.
I will be adding one of the two lamps below to replace the current regular lamp. Please advise.

Option 1
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100W-E27-Heat-UVA-Light-Bulb-Basking-Heating-Lamp-Bulbs-For-Reptile-Snake-Lizard-Turtle-Pet/32791875466.html?spm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.268.ifkvQX

Option 2
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2017-Lamps-lanterns-Heating-Lamp-Full-Spectrum-UVA-UVB-Sunlamp-Basking-Reptile-Tortoise-25-50-75W/32806847012.html?spm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.261.ifkvQX

Turtle1:
Length: 5cm
Weight: 27grams

Turtle2:
Length: 4.5cm
Weight: 23grams

Thanks a lot

Re: Red-ish color on their Plastron

PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:29 pm
by steve
What's the basking area like? Any substrate in the tank?

Re: Red-ish color on their Plastron

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:25 am
by nisho5
Hi Steve,

thanks for the help.

Please see the attached photos of their Basking area and the substrate in the aquarium which are relatively large river stones. and i have a few artificial plastic trees here and there.

1 more thing please:
What do you think of their form? does their shell look ok? Is there pyramiding?
Why is Tutrle 1's scute looks pilled? is that ok?

Thanks a lot

Re: Red-ish color on their Plastron

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:15 pm
by steve
The turtle's shell does look a bit roundish, these may be symptoms from overfeeding. What do you mean by 'pilled'?

Re: Red-ish color on their Plastron

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:42 pm
by nisho5
If u see turtle 1's photo, 1 of the rear scutes is whitened.

But about the red-ish plastron... any advice :( ????

Re: Red-ish color on their Plastron

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:43 pm
by nisho5
Any comments about the basking platform???

Re: Red-ish color on their Plastron

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:50 pm
by steve
I'd think the shell shape and plastron color might be related to overfeeding. The basking area looks OK as long it's easy for him to access. As for that white scute, its early to tell but it could be fungus. Hard water deposits might show up in several spots.

Re: Red-ish color on their Plastron

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:53 pm
by nisho5
What does hard water deposits mean??

Do u think if i reduce their diet, their shape n plastron redness will fade away???

Thankssss a lot

Re: Red-ish color on their Plastron

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:36 pm
by steve
Hard water deposits are minerals (usually calcium) that collect and build up on surfaces. You might notice it a lot in sinks, bathtubs, and faucets.

Re: Red-ish color on their Plastron

PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:26 am
by nisho5
Thanks a lot steve... i appreciate ur sopport.

So bottom line:
1. I will reduce their diet
2. Maybe replace their basking with a smoother one

How long should i wait to see results.
And what about that fungus possibility?

Re: Red-ish color on their Plastron

PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:17 am
by litefoot
Just a suggestion on basking area : rather than a smoother surface which will not allow plastron to dry off completely which will open the door for other problems. Use a softer material like real cork , it's bumpy and softer allowing air under plastron to dry completely. If you can't find a large enough piece you can always place thinner pieces together and use a safe silicon to attach to the dock you have now to modify it.

Re: Red-ish color on their Plastron

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:10 am
by steve
re: fungus
Just give us an update on in a couple of weeks. Fungus likes to spread, so you should know by then.

Re: Red-ish color on their Plastron

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:46 am
by nisho5
will do for sure :D

thanks a lot

Re: Red-ish color on their Plastron

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:46 pm
by Kingbird44
Did you already say what youre feeding them? And do you have a thermometer for the basking area?

I think the most important thing about the basking area is that they're actually using it.

Re: Red-ish color on their Plastron

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:05 pm
by nisho5
Hey Kingbird,

I am feeding them regular turtle pellets and once a week one or 2 caramus.

Basking area is about 30 to 32 degrees centigrade and water temperature is 25 to 27 degrees.

But there was about a few days where i had to replace the water heater and it was averaging about 20 degrees :(