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Post Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:30 pm   Shell problems and infected wound. Please help!

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I have two red eared sliders who are about 8 months old. The breeder I bought them from sold me expensive food which they enjoyed but their shells started pyramidding after a few months even though I wasn't over feeding them. I got rid of that terrible quality food and for the past four months they've been feeding mainly on Omega Juvenile turtle food and I've seen huge improvements on their shells. They've always had a Repti Glo 5.0 lamp for basking, water from a tap filter with no chlorine etc plus decent filtration in the tank, water temp of 26 degrees Celsius. I must admit that since getting a big tank for them, their basking temp hasn't been much warmer than the water and they haven't been basking much.. I have bought an IR basking lamp and fitted it in addition to the repti glo and now their basking temp is 29 degrees Celsius. They're now basking well but I've run into some issues. Two weeks ago during daily inspection I noticed an abscess on the underside of the one turtles shell, the shell was soft where the abscess had pushed through. I rushed my turtle to the vet immediately who cleaned out the puss with a needle, cleaned it and gave a shot of antibiotics aswell as vitamin A. The turtle has been doing fine but I did notice that my vet injected the turtle above the back leg and that spot hadn't really healed well from the needle..

Unfortunately I noticed yesterday that the other turtle has taken to chasing the treated turtle and had bitten him on the area which had been injected into. I took him out of the water to see that he had a swollen wound in that area and on closer inspection, one of the scutes on the tail end of the underside of his shell is slightly loose... the rear edge of his shell on top is slightly soft (definitely different to before) too. I am really panicking as vets here have no real experience with turtles and I feel very alone. Today I see that the wound looks infected above the leg. He is still very active, swimming, eating and all but I can see he doesn't swim with the hurt leg as per normal but he can still if necessary.

This morning I raced to the store, bought another repti glo 5.0 and a heating pad. I setup a tank for dry docking of decent size. The heating pad is inside a pillow case with another one on top for a comfy surface, the UVB bulb in the centre of the tank and the temp in the tank is 28.5 degrees Celsius. I coated his Omega pellets in calcium+D3 supplement, let him eat and then put him in the dry tank. It's completely covered with a blanket for privacy and he is quite calm in there. He's very tame and happily eats from my hand etc.

I'm not sure which is the best and most effective way to treat his shell condition nor the infected wound but I'm a bit of a wreck and won't sleep tonight unless I know he's going to be fine. As I mentioned, veterinary care for turtles is non existent in this part of the world and it's a problem for me.

Just check on him now and after 5 hours 30 minutes of being dry docked, the shell feels a fair bit more solid than it did when wet but still is not right.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:05 pm   Re: Shell problems and infected wound. Please help!

The abscess was going through the scute? How was the area treated?

As for minor infection, I would wipe the area with betadine, let it dry and then apply a thin layer or neosporin/polysporin while dry docked. If there infection is more severe, then I would look for antibiotics from a vet.
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:19 pm   Re: Shell problems and infected wound. Please help!

Thanks very much

Yes, I couldn't believe it but the abscess was going through the scute. The vet stuck a needle in and drained all the puss out of the abscess, wiped it clean and then gave him the vitamin and antibiotic injections above the leg. Luckily the abscess is totally sorted now. The vet has some experience with turtles but I have read that you don't inject turtles into their rear legs, don't know if it's true or not so I'm not confident as there's nobody to take him to. Way to much contradictory information throughout the internet, makes scenarios like this a nightmare.

Is it alright for me to leave him back in the main tank overnight as I just put him back in the water now? What is the best for the shell too?

I literally can't sleep at the moment, just watching the guys swim around :| :mrgreen:
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:31 pm   Re: Shell problems and infected wound. Please help!

This is the first I've heard of something like this. There's only a small amount of tissue between the scutes, so this is very strange. What did the vet offer as a diagnosis? Is he supposed to go back to the vet?

Do you have any pictures of this ordeal?

He should be allowed to rehydrate, but without knowing more, I don't know for how long. Plus, they need to be separated if they are not already. If one is less than a year old and that aggressive, the behavior will not really subside.
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Post Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:40 am   Re: Shell problems and infected wound. Please help!

The vet said that it's from him not basking on a completely dry surface and not drying out for long periods of time. He said that if the abscess looks to return or the wound gets infected that I must take my turtle back for more antibiotics.

Left him in the tank overnight, going to give him a bit of food with calciumD3 supplement, treat his wound with betadean and dry dock for the day. I'm going to try contact vet again today but I'm nervous to do so. Is it true that turtles shouldn't be I injected above the rear legs?

Many thanks for your help, it's highly appreciated
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:34 am   Re: Shell problems and infected wound. Please help!

I don't know if not being able to completely dry off is the cause, but it could've made a possible infection worse. It is more common to inject in the front, but that also depends on the medication.
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