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Post Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:56 pm   Impaction!

Greetings all! This is two people speaking with one voice. Approximately two weeks ago, our friends gave us two red ear sliders. We immediately fell in love with them and wished to provide them with the best life that we possibly can. Our friends informed us of what to do, but we began to do our own research on several websites such as this. It turns out that our friends really knew very little about the proper care of RES's. One of our fathers used to keep many aquatic pets and he found one of his old books, in which he read that turtles like 'pea gravel'. With the intention of giving them a better habitat than just a 20 gallon tank with a basking spot, I went and got some gravel and some plants. Terrible idea, as I now know. Within 20 minutes of putting the turtles in their newly decorated tank, we observed one of our turtles, Oogway, eating a piece of gravel, and then another. We immediately freaked, scooped the turtles out, and got rid of all the gravel. We then found information that we had not previously seen, regarding impaction - It turns out that having gravel in the tank is one of the easiest ways to kill an RES. We became overcome with sadness when we saw that there was very little we could do about it. On one 'Impaction' question where someone had the same issue, someone else responded that sometimes you can get a stone to pass by adding mineral oil to the food. I have been doing this, and watching for feces as best I can, although we are not home 24/7 so I fear if he does pass the stone, he may eat it again. This incident was exactly one week ago today. From what I've learned from my research, there's not much else I can do - but I still though I'd ask you all. Have any of you had this issue in the past? If I take our turtles to get an Xray, and it shows that the stones are still inside, what would the vet be able to do about it? How long does a turtle usually have after eating gravel? For the first few days I woke up each morning and timidly approached the tank, fearing I would find him dead. I expected him to either pass on, or pass the stone - the first being what I considered to be much more likely. I definitely did not expect him to last a week without passing the stone. Any advice or information you all may have is greatly appreciated.

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A fellow RES lover
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Post Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:37 am   Re: Impaction!

Hi, welcome to the site! How big are your turtles? The impaction of the type you're describing would be if your turtle eats a large amount causing a blockage rather than eating a large piece that it cannot pass.

A small amount shouldn't be of concern, especially if your RES are still pooping normally. A vet can take an x-ray to positively spot an impaction and it's severity. I've heard of warm soaks to help pass gravel. I've heard of the oil as well, but have not looked into it.
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Post Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:29 pm   Re: Impaction!

Thank you :] They are 4 and 5 inches [I know they are too big for their tank if that's why you ask, we will hopefully get a bigger one this weekend] I know Oogway ate at least 2 pieces of gravel, and I'm not sure if Tortugita ate any - so yes, it was a small amount. They are still eating and still pooping, which from what I've read means that there is not an impaction, at least yet. You'd recommend giving them a warm water soak? What temperature? The tank stays between 78-85 usually. Thank you for your advice :]
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Post Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:22 am   Re: Impaction!

If they were impacted, then I would try that. It sounds like they're fine, so just do things normally.
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Post Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:42 pm   Re: Impaction!

I actually spoke with my pharmacist about the use of mineral oil to help my one constipated turtle move things along, and she quickly told me that mineral oil will deplete nutrients from the body. I believe she said that it takes the nutrients in with what they are ingesting or the nutrients out of their intestines, at least in humans, which is why doctors don't recommend that to their patients.

Regardless, I could only assume that whatever is that is in the mineral oil could have the same effect on my turtles, so I opted to use castor oil instead, which serves the same purpose. If you choose to go this route, I would soak some pellets overnight in a little container so they absorb some of the castor oil, and feed one of two of the pellets to your turtle in the morning when you feed him.

I couldn't help you with the warm water soaks, unfortunately.
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