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Post Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:08 am   Looking for Blood in Mouth

My question is in the last paragraph below, but here's some background info:

After nearly two months of being perfectly healthy (getting his appetite back, eradicating worms in the tank, etc.), my 8 year old male RES had some blood drops coming from his mouth last night. I had him dry docked at the time (to absorb some topical skin treatment), and he was doing his usual escape attempts where he tries to climb out and slides back down onto his belly. I was worried that this sliding (which he's done for years without problems), or the q tip I used for the skin treatment, somehow caused the injury, but my vets don't seem to think that's the case. I went to two different emergency vets (because the first was uncomfortable treating turtles beyond a physical exam), and the second one performed x rays and a physical exam; he didn't see any injuries or objects that would cause impaction or injury, and suggested that our regular vet do a fecal sample test and look into the possibility of a bacterial infection or parasites. (He also gave Samuel a dose of Baytril and some fluids). Today, my semi-regular vet gave us two weeks' worth of oral antibiotics, thinking that an infection was the most likely cause (though he has no other symptoms, other than a daily yawn). I dropped off a fecal sample later in the day, so we should get the results of that test in a couple days.

Both vets told me to keep him in his usual tank, but also to keep an eye on him and see if any more blood appears. My question is, how do I watch for blood if he's in his tank? There was blood present for a few hours, but in a tank I feel like it would get dispersed. Should I take him out of the water for a little while each day to see if anything shows up? (He has easy access to an above tank basking area, so I would check him then, but he's never been very keen on basking while there are people around.) I should also note that he is acting perfectly healthy otherwise; he was pretty tired from the trips to the vet, but he has been swimming and eating normally, and didn't even act lethargic at the vet's office.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:11 am   Re: Looking for Blood in Mouth

Are you able to provoke him a little so that he would open his mouth? Sorry to hear about his problems, a few years ago I had to deal with non-stop issues which was extremely frustrating.

Inside the mouth should be pretty pink, so if there is an infection or something unusual going on, a vet should be able to spot it quickly. Is he a regular basker?
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Post Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:24 am   Re: Looking for Blood in Mouth

Apparently he's taken to basking when I'm not around! My roommates see him bask for a couple of hours while I'm gone during the day, but in the evening he just hops up on his platform and then right back off. He was out on his platform for about an hour earlier today, and I didn't see any blood (haven't seen any in the last 24 hours or so, in fact). He's going to be taking those antibiotics orally once a day too, so maybe I'll get a look in his mouth when that happens. I'm reluctant to dry dock him, since that's when the problem started, but I don't know if I'd notice a couple drops of blood in that tank.

Both vets said that Sam's mouth was a healthy pink, and he seems very normal, but I know animals are good at hiding illnesses :/
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Post Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:52 pm   Re: Looking for Blood in Mouth

I guess you can take him out of the tank and wipe around his face to check for blood. I'm still not sure how the dry docking would have caused an injury inside the mouth.
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